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Helium.com Does Not Suck, and Neither Does Associated Content, or HubPages, or…

So, about Helium…

To wrap up my cursory evaluation of Helium.com, I’ll say they are a good writing site. You can make a little money, but you have to work pretty darn hard at it. You’ve got to publish hundreds of articles to start earning a few dollars each month. Think about it–if you add up your writing time and then figure the present value of the maximum dollars each article might ever earn, it’s not a good business investment.  On the other hand, If you enjoy participating at Helium, you’re getting another benefit all together. At Helium, it’s a good one. They are fun and fair minded people.

Better than that though, is Helium’s Marketplace. It’s not a place where an established writer will spend a lot of time, but it does give a novice writer a real chance to get a pinkie toe in the web writing door. If you can sell a couple articles to Helium’s independent publishers, you’ve got something to use to pursue other work, which is exactly what I’ve done.  To sell work in Marketplace, write your *ss off. Tackle every Marketplace title you can handle, whether it interests you or not. Remember, you’re after paying work.

I haven’t mentioned Helium’s contests, where there’s also some money to be made, because I haven’t participated in them. If I do, I’ll “circle back” and let you know how that goes.

Associated Content

AC pays modest up front dollars for content. $4.50 is the most I’ve ever been paid. On the happy side, a writer doen’t have to compete for these low dollars. You write write, you get paid. And you get page view pay as well. But just like Helium, you have to publish hundreds of articles in order to make $50 or $100 per month. With my twenty odd articles, I earn about $0.06 per week.

I’ve heard that Partner Calls on Associated Content pay better than standard Calls for Content. How much better? Legend has it that writers earn as much as $25/article. I’ve also heard that writers have gotten regular work from AC partners, though this is also unverified. AC periodically gives writers a chance to “apply” for the more lucrative Partner Calls by submitting an original article that is worthy of purchase. After review and publication of the article by AC, the writer waits to see if access is granted to Partner Calls. I submitted my Partner Call application article almost four weeks ago. It’s still awaiting review and publication.

Read here for more from a more experienced AC writer: The Barefoot Scribbles

Hub Pages

I’ve got a few HubPages too, and they earn me zilch. It’s fun to publish them though. In addition to the Google ads and the Konetera ads, you can put Amazon.com offerings on your pages. I imagine that if a person got enough page hits, they might get a little ad or product revenue. With five Hubs published over seven months, I’ve had an average of 5 page hits per day, and about $2 total from Google Adsense ads. I’ve got so few Hubs though that my experience with HubPages is hardly worth citing. As for using HubPages to move up in the writing world, I don’t know how that would be done. Somebody more knowledgeable can clue me in.

Now, this is all very nice, but my ultimate goal is not to learn the intricacies of writing websites. It’s to MAKE MONEY. And I’m earning some money these days. It’s not a living though, unless you live under a bridge.

Next time… Demand Studios: Movin’ on Up


Helium.com related articles and blogs (and one of these links is really interesting):

To save you a little web surfing,

Here is a sample of Helium related articles, blogs and press releases I have found on the web.  Some are older, and so are not really relevant to the current Helium set up, still they may offer insight into the phsychology of the organization.  You’ll notice some opinons you’ll see here do not stand up well under the scrutiny of a critical reader.   Others are quite well thought out.

I’ll update this list as time goes by.  Feel free to put your own Helium related blog URL in the comment section.  I’ll add your link to my list.

Peopleaware.com (Be Passion Now magazine) dupes writers in Helium’s Marketplace

  • Peopleaware.com masquerades as Be Passion Magazine in Helium.com‘s Marketplace, cheating writers out of rightfully earned compensation and publication.

In early March, 2008 “Be Passion” magazine posted requests in Helium.com’s Marketplacefor articles with titles such as ‘Best ways to reduce stress’, ‘Reflections on real life heroes’, ‘How to get the most energy from common foods’,  ‘How to find your true passion’, and ten others.  The offer price was as much as $120 for selected articles.  After weeks of nagging by Helium, Be Passion finally made their selections on April 8, 2008.

Today though, it is known that Be Passion has renigged on its promise to pay.  Furthermore, Be Passion has been revealed to be a pseudonym for Peopleaware.com. 

Peopleaware.com promotes itself as a place “where ideas meet the marketplace”, but sources say that Peopleaware.com is in fact a scam operation that lures writers and other entrepreneurial and creative sorts to pay for promotion by Peopleaware, with promises of networking opportunities, and lofty ideas of changing the world through innovations born in the humble minds of ordinary people.

What Peopleaware.com’s motivation for launching this deceitful compaing  could possibly be, remains to be discovered.  Plagiarism?  We’ll try to find out.

  • What we know about Peopleaware.com so far:

Peopleaware applicants are asked for personal information including real name, phone number and zip code, as well as a description of the type of work (article, book, invention) the applicant wants to promote.  An opportunity to upload a file containing the applicants work is conveniently offered on the application page (If you try it, don’t be so foolish as to actually give them anything).

The applicant then receives a confirmation email which displays all the application information.  Peopleaware.com tells the applicant to “Have a beautiful day!” and wait for further response.

More to follow, when a response from Peopleaware.com is received by this writer.

Have a beautiful day!

Edit June 2, 2008:  Please note, all writers who sell work in Helium’s Marketplace, including myself,  agree to keep the identity of each publisher confidential.  Also note that the identity of Peopleaware was made public by Helium (on Helium’s the discussion boards) prior to the posting of Peopleaware’s identity here.   No publisher information, that has not already been made public by Helium, will be found on this blog.

The Latest – Revamped Helium Marketplace hasn’t quite hit its stride.

  • Helium Marketplace has been overhauled: 

It’s been a few weeks since the launch of the latest Marketplace edition, and though Helium staffers like to believe their site is polished, Marketplace currently is Beta, by real world definitions. 

Articles are not moving from the publisher selection process to the general pool of Helium articles as promised, and some Heliumites threaten to mutiny.  However, most Helium members seem to understand that problems are inevitable, and a sort of disgruntled sanity is the mood of the day.  To Helium’s credit, they seem to be working on the problem.

The Helium staff remains courteous and responsive, for the most part.  Even Mark Ranalli posted a reply to a well thought out list of Marketplace concerns from a regular contributor.

  • Here is a good place to talk about the Helium boards in general, as promised in my last post: 

The boards are continually monitored.  Some posts will not get an immediate answer however.  If the topic is uncomfortable for the staff or channel stewards, it may take more than one post to illicit a response.

An occasional staffer will come across as a little defensive, but some allowance should be granted.  After all they are emotionally involved with Helium, and honest concerns may seem like criticism.  On the other hand, one can easily get the feeling that Helium lacks the perspective of an outsider who really has no way of discerning the inner workings of the site, and who can easily feel insecure when things don’t run smoothly.  My personal opinion is that staffers who cannot remain dispassionate should probably refrain from posting on the boards.  There’s just too much oportunity for misunderstanding.

The Helium boards are an interesting place to read up on the latest gossip, and to get a feel for what’s going on.  But, if you’re at Helium to write, beware of becoming caught up in the board exchanges; they can be a little addictive, and a waste of valuable writing time.

Also, do post your concerns with regularity, but try to do it with self depricating humor.  This gets a better response.  Sometimes problems (like articles not transitioning) are conveniently resolved after a concern is raised, but without any official response on the boards.  Best to just be grateful and move on.

  • Back to Marketplace: 

Helium users are not entirely happy with the new setup, particularly the fact that we can no longer see the selected article, and have no way of knowing if, or when an article is chosen.  The general unhappiness surely stems partly from a natural resistance to change, but also is due to a move toward a more impersonal Marketplace, which leaves Marketplace writers with no sense of control.  This is not good for Helium, and they’d be very wise to find some way of appeasing the writers.

Also, the current offerings on Marketplace are little meager.  Except for one Miami Herald article, none of the titles are offering very much money.  There’s no way to tell if this has anything to do with the changes to Marketplace.  It could just be a natural lull.

  • Other Helium stuff:

The Rewardathon (a contest that paid members to post articles, according to their rating and writing stars)seems to have concluded without incident.  Most people (myself included) received their payments promptly.  I suspect Helium put a lot of effort into making sure no snags were encountered.  A problem (beyond the perennial griping about rating and stars) with the Rewardathon would have been devastating for Helium’s reputation.

  • Coming up:

More on Helium, and…

I’ve started writing at AC and also at Constant Content.  I’ll tell you how I think they compare.

Writing for Dollars – My adventures at Helium.com

Once upon a time I was sitting around my house, with too much time on my hands, and too few funds at my disposal, when I decided to be a writer…

Ten weeks later:

Since mid January I’ve been writing for Helium.com.  People on the web, and Helium members as well, seem to either hate Helium or love Helium.   As for me, well, Helium and I are still in the “first date” phase of our relationship.  I’m waiting to see if they’ll pick up the check.

Helium and I met on-line.  I did some minimal research before I put my name to my Helium account and began writing; and then during my first couple of weeks I continued to peruse the web, looking specifically for anything prurient or scandalous. 

I found a couple of disgruntled former Helium members who’ve embarked on rather vehement vendettas against Helium, but I found those individuals do not ever address the counter arguments to their claims of maltreatment by Helium.  So, I felt pretty good about continuing the relationship.

Thus far I am satisfied that Helium delivers what they promise.  Though some Heliumites complain mightily that they were not fully aware that they were giving Helium rights to their writing “in perpetuity”, I found those terms spelled out clearly when I opened my account.

Complaints about Helium’s rating system are not completely off base.  The rating system is incapable of distinguishing between writing that is average (by real writing world standards) and writing that is actually good.  However most the writing on Helium falls below the average mark, and so the rating system does deliver a very very rough representation of relative article quality.   Keep in mind that the same genius minds that generate Helium’s mass of articles, also rate it.

Marketplace is an interesting place.  I’ve successfully peddled my writing wares there, about $300 worth so far, with more work awaiting final judgement.  I sold my first article about two weeks after I began writing for Helium.  I’m pleased with this.

Given that I am a previously unpublished writer, selling work at all within such a short time period prompts me to give a thumbs-semi-up (45 degrees from vertical) to Helium’s Marketplace, with the stipulation that I will turn the thumb WAY down if any of the publishers do not pay.   I hold the totally erect thumb in reserve until I sell work to publishers of merit who are actually willing to tell me who they are, and where I may find my work. 

So far I have seen one of my articles on the web, three others are sold to a known publisher with a reputation for using articles in unrecognizable (and un-Google-able) form.  I don’t mind this since I knew what I was writing, and what I was writing for, at the time; and this publisher has a very comforting reputation for actually paying. 

A fifth article, I wrote for a known client with a real street address and a brick and mortar establishment.  Fantastic!  So far. 

My sixth article, a longer, more back breaking endeavor sold for my highest take ever.  But the publisher (who is in turn selling the work to yet another party) chooses to remain anonymous.  This means I have sold my piece to a client through two middle men who both have an interest in making certain that a writer (me) cannot contract individually with the end user of the writing.   Bummer.

I’ve been told by Helium that I may search the web for my work the traditional Google way.  Yeah right.  I have no idea if it’s even going on the web.  I suspect my article may be intended for a small print publication, which I’ll never be able to find.  I will probably never know where it ends up.  How convenient for the “publisher”. 

Here’s my Helium Marketplace Lesson One: 

Helium publishers most often post their article requests under a pseudonym.  They do not reveal their true identity until an article has been chosen, and then only to the selected author; and they reserve the right to remain anonymous.   You won’t know if they choose to remain anonymous until after you agree to sell your article to them.

So, if you are writing for Helium in hopes of garnering clips for your portfolio, you may find yourself stiffed in this regard.  The money is all you’ll get in many cases.  Money is a great consolation, and there’s nothing wrong with that; but you should always be aware of rules of the game.   

Now, maybe you’re thinking – like I did – next time, maybe I shouldn’t write for that publisher.  Well, they can always post under a new pseudonym.   We writers may be none the wiser.  (Besides, the pay was okay.  I’d do it again.  Still, I find myself wondering how much the end user actually paid.  Hmmm.)

 Helium Marketplace Lesson Two:

Beginning writers, Helium is not your agent.  They represent themselves.  YOU represent you.  So, if you want to use Helium to your advantage, get your best business head in the game, develop some realistic expectations.  If you want to sell work, be prepared to work hard. 

If you can get some clips, try to move up in the writing food chain, because once again, Helium is not evil, as some will claim, but they are out to make a buck for Helium.  They are not specifially into promoting YOU. 

If you want to make a go of it in writing you can start at Helium, but ultimately you can’t rest at Helium.  You’ve got to somehow start writing for clients who are actually known to you.  You can find a few of these on Helium, but they come along sporadically. 

A Heliumite complaint with which I cannot concur: 

A handful of Marketplace writers seem to feel that they should be able to reclaim the rights to their Marketplace published work after a certain period, so that they can publish it again.  Their argument is that the pay is paltry for initial “publication”, and their words are more valuable than that.  To this I say, come on, you cannot be serious.  Just churn out some more of the same and forget about it. 

Even the best article I’ve “sold” isn’t worth hanging on to.  I can always write again on that topic if I want to.   You could say I own the goose.  I’m not too worried that I sold a golden egg too cheap.  Okay, aluminum egg – but the principle still applies.

I respect my fellow Helium writers, but some over estimate the value of their work.  I don’t count myself among those ranks.  I’m not saying I’m a bad writer, just that the English speaking world has a surplus of not bad writers.  I’m happy to be getting paid at all.   For the time being.

In summary: 

Helium.com is not out to take advantage of anybody, but they are a cheap date.  If you want to make any real money, lose the romantic notions.  Treat Helium like a business and head straight for Marketplace. 

If you can write decently, and you work at it, as you would any other job, you should not have trouble selling work (I have sold close to 18% of my Marketplace articles, and that number could rise, since another 20% of my submissions are still pending).   If after submitting twenty five or so articles to Marketplace, you do not sell anything, something is wrong with your writing.  Polish up your skills. 

With Helium’s current Marketplace set-up, writing for them is more of a stepping stone type relationship.   Just as with most other small time writing ventures, you will not make a lot of money.  You’ll need to move on to more promising prospects in order to do that.

Next installment will include:

  • Some of my observations of how the Helium staff interacts with members.  They’re nice, but it’s all business people, make no mistake. 
  • Also, is it a good idea to post creative writing on Helium?  Several pros and cons, if you’re trying to be a freelance writer. 
  • Fellow writers as mentors and champions of your work.
  • Plus, other stuff I’m sure to think of before tomorrow.